Comments on: SF Pride Threatens Videographer With Legal Action To Fight Association With Mid-Market Shooting http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/ SF Appeal: San Francisco's Online Newspaper Sun, 06 May 2018 15:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.24 By: KWillets http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-13199 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:35:09 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-13199 Maybe Pride should choose a new name to avoid the association. I would suggest “San Francisco Gay Pride Streisand Effect Shooting Festival Blam Blam Blam”.

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By: KWillets http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-16816 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:35:09 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-16816 Maybe Pride should choose a new name to avoid the association. I would suggest “San Francisco Gay Pride Streisand Effect Shooting Festival Blam Blam Blam”.

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By: patrick http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-13198 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:07:41 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-13198 Who is the nudie in the thumbnail?

The headline should have read: Cutie-patootie gets shot!!

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By: patrick http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-16815 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:07:41 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-16815 Who is the nudie in the thumbnail?

The headline should have read: Cutie-patootie gets shot!!

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By: Eve Batey http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-13197 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:26:38 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-13197 Against my better judgement:

1. With all due respect, you must not have looked very hard, and using the Examiner as a source, come on. From an article published on 6/24 the debt has been reduced to $77,000: http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-06-24/news/29697622_1_pride-weekend-new-treasurer-pink-pistols

Yes, we opted to use a number supplied to an Examiner reporter by Behan, as opposed to an unattributed number cited by the Chron. We noted that the specific number cited was expected to decrease.

We appreciate the respect, thank you, but I am not sure what “using the Examiner as a source, come on” is intended to indicate — I’m well acquainted with the Ex, and think it’s an solid paper, with quality reporters. No publication’s perfect, but I think the folks who work there are definitely committed to getting the story right. If you have information on the Examiner that we do not, I’d love to hear it.

2. There is nothing in the post you linked to that says that the shooting victim was a spectator, it only says that he was part of a group that was arguing with other people around the area of the Castro. I don’t have time to find the quote right now, but officials at the time said that the shooting last year was”totally” unrelated.

I said “suggested.” Interestingly, the author of that post was the commenter immediately below me (I promise that was unplanned), perhaps she has more insight. But I don’t have a dog in the “was Powell at Pink Saturday or not” fight, I said that it’s a good question.

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These are all interesting points! Perhaps every single publication in town, as well as city officials and event organizers are “sloppy,” and you’re the one person who has it right, fighting the good fight by posting comments on websites (for which I again thank you).

Or, perhaps, and I suspect this is what Brock was implying, you, like many folks on many topics, are frustrated to see reporting that does not align with your views.

And I know how people like that feel! I’m an animal lover, and when I see reporting on “humane slaughter” I privately grumble about the quality of the reporting in a far nastier way than you have commented. But I’m self-aware enough to know the issue is not the reporting, the issue is that I don’t agree with the tack that’s being taken, because it fails to align with my views.

But perhaps everyone is getting the story wrong, and you’re the only one with the right take. If so, we’re even more honored to have you on the site, and are thrilled at your insights. Thank you.

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By: Eve Batey http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-16814 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:26:38 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-16814 Against my better judgement:

1. With all due respect, you must not have looked very hard, and using the Examiner as a source, come on. From an article published on 6/24 the debt has been reduced to $77,000: http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-06-24/news/29697622_1_pride-weekend-new-treasurer-pink-pistols

Yes, we opted to use a number supplied to an Examiner reporter by Behan, as opposed to an unattributed number cited by the Chron. We noted that the specific number cited was expected to decrease.

We appreciate the respect, thank you, but I am not sure what “using the Examiner as a source, come on” is intended to indicate — I’m well acquainted with the Ex, and think it’s an solid paper, with quality reporters. No publication’s perfect, but I think the folks who work there are definitely committed to getting the story right. If you have information on the Examiner that we do not, I’d love to hear it.

2. There is nothing in the post you linked to that says that the shooting victim was a spectator, it only says that he was part of a group that was arguing with other people around the area of the Castro. I don’t have time to find the quote right now, but officials at the time said that the shooting last year was”totally” unrelated.

I said “suggested.” Interestingly, the author of that post was the commenter immediately below me (I promise that was unplanned), perhaps she has more insight. But I don’t have a dog in the “was Powell at Pink Saturday or not” fight, I said that it’s a good question.

3. (edited for space, scroll up to reread!)

These are all interesting points! Perhaps every single publication in town, as well as city officials and event organizers are “sloppy,” and you’re the one person who has it right, fighting the good fight by posting comments on websites (for which I again thank you).

Or, perhaps, and I suspect this is what Brock was implying, you, like many folks on many topics, are frustrated to see reporting that does not align with your views.

And I know how people like that feel! I’m an animal lover, and when I see reporting on “humane slaughter” I privately grumble about the quality of the reporting in a far nastier way than you have commented. But I’m self-aware enough to know the issue is not the reporting, the issue is that I don’t agree with the tack that’s being taken, because it fails to align with my views.

But perhaps everyone is getting the story wrong, and you’re the only one with the right take. If so, we’re even more honored to have you on the site, and are thrilled at your insights. Thank you.

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By: shinzon http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-13196 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:55:37 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-13196 Brock, an editor should know the phrase is “unable to see the forest for the trees” not “through the trees”, and you’re attacking me and not refuting my points because you know I’m right.

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By: shinzon http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-16813 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:55:37 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-16813 Brock, an editor should know the phrase is “unable to see the forest for the trees” not “through the trees”, and you’re attacking me and not refuting my points because you know I’m right.

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By: Brock Keeling http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-13195 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:56:36 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-13195 With all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Period. Too intrenched in your own fetishism and bias to see the forest through the trees. I get this. Far too common in SF. Depressingly so. But I respect your effort, however blinded.

Great job, Appeal, on getting this story straight… so to speak.

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By: Brock Keeling http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting/#comment-16812 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:56:36 +0000 http://example.org/sf-pride-threatens-videographer-with-legal-action-to-fight-association-with-mid-market-shooting#comment-16812 With all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Period. Too intrenched in your own fetishism and bias to see the forest through the trees. I get this. Far too common in SF. Depressingly so. But I respect your effort, however blinded.

Great job, Appeal, on getting this story straight… so to speak.

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