Comments on: SFMTA Roundup: Welcome To Year Zero Of The Post-Nat Ford Era http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era/ SF Appeal: San Francisco's Online Newspaper Sun, 06 May 2018 15:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.24 By: LibertyHiller http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era/#comment-13122 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:06:13 +0000 http://example.org/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era#comment-13122 Aaron, where did you get the idea that this was a problem in the Sunset Tunnel, which would only have affected the N-Judah?

As Paul Rose of SFMTA noted in the comments on the Muni Diaries post, ATCS would have made zero difference in this case, which was strictly a mechanical fault. (For once, he’s not blowing smoke up anyone’s fundament.)

The pantograph on the damaged streetcar — which is the proper term for what you call the “electrical harness” — was apparently damaged around 2nd Ave. or Arguello Blvd., but nobody noticed it until the train was entering the Market St. subway at Duboce Portal, and by then it was too late.

Although the damaged streetcar wasn’t blocking the main line of the subway (K/T, L and M), the power surge affected both the main line and the branch that exits at Duboce Portal and carries the J-Church and N-Judah to the surface. Muni couldn’t restore power to the subway until the damaged streetcar was pulled out of the way, sometime after 4pm.

There’s a discrepancy between Koskey’s reporting (to which you linked) and the reports from Will Reisman of the Examiner and others that I was reading Thursday night. She says that service was restored around 5:30 to the main line, which is being generous. (From my own commute experience: at 5:30, the agents at both ends of Montgomery station were turning away passengers. As I recall, Muni didn’t announce that main line service had been restored until well after 6pm.)

Footnote: the CPUC’s complaint about automated train control refers to the Sunset Tunnel, not the main line of the subway. (See its press release of Feb. 2011 at http://docs.cpuc.ca.gov/published/News_release/131263.htm for further details.) The main line’s ATCS was installed in the late 1990s, and led to a legendary meltdown of service.

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By: LibertyHiller http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era/#comment-16788 Sat, 18 Jun 2011 15:06:13 +0000 http://example.org/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era#comment-16788 Aaron, where did you get the idea that this was a problem in the Sunset Tunnel, which would only have affected the N-Judah?

As Paul Rose of SFMTA noted in the comments on the Muni Diaries post, ATCS would have made zero difference in this case, which was strictly a mechanical fault. (For once, he’s not blowing smoke up anyone’s fundament.)

The pantograph on the damaged streetcar — which is the proper term for what you call the “electrical harness” — was apparently damaged around 2nd Ave. or Arguello Blvd., but nobody noticed it until the train was entering the Market St. subway at Duboce Portal, and by then it was too late.

Although the damaged streetcar wasn’t blocking the main line of the subway (K/T, L and M), the power surge affected both the main line and the branch that exits at Duboce Portal and carries the J-Church and N-Judah to the surface. Muni couldn’t restore power to the subway until the damaged streetcar was pulled out of the way, sometime after 4pm.

There’s a discrepancy between Koskey’s reporting (to which you linked) and the reports from Will Reisman of the Examiner and others that I was reading Thursday night. She says that service was restored around 5:30 to the main line, which is being generous. (From my own commute experience: at 5:30, the agents at both ends of Montgomery station were turning away passengers. As I recall, Muni didn’t announce that main line service had been restored until well after 6pm.)

Footnote: the CPUC’s complaint about automated train control refers to the Sunset Tunnel, not the main line of the subway. (See its press release of Feb. 2011 at http://docs.cpuc.ca.gov/published/News_release/131263.htm for further details.) The main line’s ATCS was installed in the late 1990s, and led to a legendary meltdown of service.

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By: Greg Dewar http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era/#comment-13121 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:09:29 +0000 http://example.org/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era#comment-13121 Leland Yee could care less about anything that’s not Leland Yee. He’s just pulling a stunt to make it look like he cares about Muni, but he voted many times in the legislature to kill transit funding at the behest of Gov. Schwarzenegger (which courts ruled illegal). And my petition started sooner and of course Leland was nowhere to be found.

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By: Greg Dewar http://sfappeal.com/2011/06/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era/#comment-16787 Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:09:29 +0000 http://example.org/sfmta-roundup-welcome-to-year-zero-of-the-post-nat-ford-era#comment-16787 Leland Yee could care less about anything that’s not Leland Yee. He’s just pulling a stunt to make it look like he cares about Muni, but he voted many times in the legislature to kill transit funding at the behest of Gov. Schwarzenegger (which courts ruled illegal). And my petition started sooner and of course Leland was nowhere to be found.

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