Comments on: Passenger Hit By Car While Exiting Muni Raises Safety Questions http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/ SF Appeal: San Francisco's Online Newspaper Sun, 06 May 2018 15:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.24 By: Rick http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-16757 Sat, 14 May 2011 16:12:34 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-16757 Agreed – I ride the N most of the time, and it’s where I have noticed the same hazards – 7 & 9th at Irving, as well as 9th & Judah. So many drivers race to wait for the next red light.

In addition to supporting our “Transit First” efforts, the City could offset some chunk of budget deficit by enforcing laws like these (as well as complete stop at stop signs) out in the avenues.

$146 is low for a moving violation such as this. How can we be talking a potential $300 for handicapped placards and leaving this gem at its current “economy” level?

]]> By: Rick http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-12953 Sat, 14 May 2011 16:12:34 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-12953 Agreed – I ride the N most of the time, and it’s where I have noticed the same hazards – 7 & 9th at Irving, as well as 9th & Judah. So many drivers race to wait for the next red light.

In addition to supporting our “Transit First” efforts, the City could offset some chunk of budget deficit by enforcing laws like these (as well as complete stop at stop signs) out in the avenues.

$146 is low for a moving violation such as this. How can we be talking a potential $300 for handicapped placards and leaving this gem at its current “economy” level?

]]> By: Karl http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-16756 Fri, 13 May 2011 23:22:54 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-16756 Do we compare to Houston now? Sigh. And yeah, forget about all these half baked ideas how to make the streetcars safer when they’re forced to share the street with cars. Ain’t going to happen, folks. A tip of the hat though to the drivers who watch out and hold the doors shut when they see an overzealous car approaching.
BTW, when they’re going to redo Taraval in a few years from now, they’re hopefully smart enough to relocate utilities to allow the L to be taken *underground* eventually. Where it belongs (just like the N, M and up an unnamed line up Geary Blvd).

]]> By: Karl http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-12952 Fri, 13 May 2011 23:22:54 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-12952 Do we compare to Houston now? Sigh. And yeah, forget about all these half baked ideas how to make the streetcars safer when they’re forced to share the street with cars. Ain’t going to happen, folks. A tip of the hat though to the drivers who watch out and hold the doors shut when they see an overzealous car approaching.
BTW, when they’re going to redo Taraval in a few years from now, they’re hopefully smart enough to relocate utilities to allow the L to be taken *underground* eventually. Where it belongs (just like the N, M and up an unnamed line up Geary Blvd).

]]> By: Erik http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-16755 Fri, 13 May 2011 22:13:24 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-16755 They make fold-out barricades that swing out from the front of school buses when the door is open; they could put one of those on the back of the trains. Though they would probably need to put some big, jagged metal parts on them too to punish drivers who just drive straight through the barrier.

]]> By: Erik http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-12951 Fri, 13 May 2011 22:13:24 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-12951 They make fold-out barricades that swing out from the front of school buses when the door is open; they could put one of those on the back of the trains. Though they would probably need to put some big, jagged metal parts on them too to punish drivers who just drive straight through the barrier.

]]> By: DT http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-16754 Fri, 13 May 2011 20:14:54 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-16754 Then engineer something in the street surface that is activated when a train stops/doors open that will prevent traffic from passing on the right. I cannot begin to tell you how many times I have been almost hit when detraining the N at 9th or 7th and Irving.

]]> By: DT http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-12950 Fri, 13 May 2011 20:14:54 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-12950 Then engineer something in the street surface that is activated when a train stops/doors open that will prevent traffic from passing on the right. I cannot begin to tell you how many times I have been almost hit when detraining the N at 9th or 7th and Irving.

]]> By: Dan http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-16753 Fri, 13 May 2011 19:30:44 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-16753 I’m a daily L rider and this is completely true. I get on and off everyday at Sunset and cars are constantly trying to race by the train so as not to miss the traffic light. At least once a month I have to nearly jump back in the train as I’m trying to exit so as to avoid being hit. I don’t have a solution unfortunately but a $146 fine seems rather low considering the risks involved to transit riders, especially in a city that has a goal of 85% of trips being made on public transit.

]]> By: Dan http://sfappeal.com/2011/05/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions/#comment-12949 Fri, 13 May 2011 19:30:44 +0000 http://example.org/passenger-hit-by-car-while-exiting-muni-raises-safety-questions#comment-12949 I’m a daily L rider and this is completely true. I get on and off everyday at Sunset and cars are constantly trying to race by the train so as not to miss the traffic light. At least once a month I have to nearly jump back in the train as I’m trying to exit so as to avoid being hit. I don’t have a solution unfortunately but a $146 fine seems rather low considering the risks involved to transit riders, especially in a city that has a goal of 85% of trips being made on public transit.

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